Friday, October 24, 2008

Sunday Night Broadcast Notes: Part 1

I copied & pasted this from a Facebook note . . . also my response to others who oppose Prop 8 about there being no consequences for others. I know that most that oppose Prop 8 say, "Live and let live...their marriage does not make yours any less important...just get over it...etc." This sounds like a nice ideal, and I wish it were true, but unfortunately it isn't. Supporters of Prop 8 have been criticized for hypothetical arguments, as Jake mentioned above. I went to a broadcast that opened my eyes to the fact that lawsuits & such are not hypothetical, they are already happening! The following are not just stories I heard from someone, these people came to the meeting I watched to tell their story in person:

*Elaine Huguenin - New Mexico - declined photographing a lesbian wedding because it is against her beliefs. They seemed understanding. She then received a phone call saying she had an option of apologizing & paying a fee or getting an attorney. She paid almost $7,000 in attorney fees.

*Four firefighters - San Diego - ordered to walk in the gay rights parade. They witnessed nudity, anti-religious comments & many sexually harassing comments directed at them specifically. When they filed a harassment lawsuit, they had 8 votes instead of 9, so they did not prevail.

*Scott Hoffman - Ocean Grove, NJ - Director of Camp Association - beautiful grounds where marriages are often performed. He was asked by a lesbian couple to perform their marriage, but sat them down & explained that he would not do so. They seemed disappointed, but understanding. He then found that he was being investigated on charges of discrimination. His tax-exempt status was removed without a thorough investigation.

Many say that gay people should have the right to marry, but how can we justify that when it infringes on the rights of others? Do we favor the rights of gays because it is a more forward rather than traditional way of thinking?

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dez said...

Fiction: Churches could lose their tax-exemption status.

FACT: Nothing in Prop 8 would force churches to do anything. In fact, the court decision regarding marriage specifically says “no religion will be required to change its religious policies or practices with regard to same-sex couples, and no religious officiant will be required to solemnize a marriage in contravention of his or her religious beliefs.”

Fiction: If Prop 8 isn’t passed, people can be sued over personal beliefs.

FACT: California’s laws already prohibit discrimination against anyone based on race, religion, gender, or sexual orientation. This has nothing to do with marriage.


These cases have to do with existing laws --- NOT PROP 8!

Yes On Prop 8 said...

Thank you for the information Jeremy! That's great to know!

Michael Paul Bailey said...

How would you feel if Mrs. Elaine Huguenin had refused to photograph a Jewish wedding or a Mormon wedding or a black wedding because she was morally opposed Jews, Mormons, or blacks? Isn't that the same thing?

Also dez is completely 100% correct. Same-sex marriage is not legal in New Mexico, therefore, the passage of Prop 8 will, in no way, eliminate this sort of legal challenge.

Please stop distributing misleading information.